Allow duelist stance to cast while moving

Allow duelist stance to cast while moving
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elvismonkey

elvismonkey

Proposal
Allow duelist cast to while moving instead of cancelling.
Justification
Discussed in discord on Combat channel can seemed popular.

But my justification is pvp should be fluid and agile and stopping like a stutter is stupid.
Motivation
Improve the games combat when using this ability.
To cast duelist stance you need to stop still for a second , cast, wait, and then continue. Its really clunky and removes the fluidity in combat. It has a short active time so is very annoying.
 
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Honestly, a lot of the time that this ability is used its by BHs during a BH against jedi. I personally would rather keep it as is, as it provides windows of opportunity for damage/snares etc during those situations.

I think there are times where we should be improving the fluidity of combat and there ares times where you should have to decide whether or not its worth stopping to cast an ability or to continue on moving and looking for space/LoS to cast it to gain the benefits.

Not a sponsor or upvote from me but best of luck!
 
I think this makes sense. I would ask if the other similar abilities need you to stand still. If COB, stand fast and parry riposte all cast while moving so should duelist stance.
 
I’m upvoting because it would feel far less janky (and useful) to be able to cast duelist on the move. It makes sense for attacks with a cast timer to root you, but as this is a defensive, I’m all for it being changed.
 
Rheasconstruct said:
Honestly, a lot of the time that this ability is used its by BHs during a BH against jedi. I personally would rather keep it as is, as it provides windows of opportunity for damage/snares etc during those situations.

I think there are times where we should be improving the fluidity of combat and there ares times where you should have to decide whether or not its worth stopping to cast an ability or to continue on moving and looking for space/LoS to cast it to gain the benefits.

Not a sponsor or upvote from me but best of luck!
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I disagree that this is mostly used against Jedi. I rarely fight Jedi and use this in PvP and PVE all the time. I’d bet most BHs hunt normals far more than Jedi. But not sure why we would make BHs make this choice but not the other defensive stances should users (not advocating for the other stances to root, please don’t do that).
 
Actairr said:
I think this makes sense. I would ask if the other similar abilities need you to stand still. If COB, stand fast and parry riposte all cast while moving so should duelist stance.
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Okay but all of these abilities you've listed have substantial cooldowns... They are not abilites that require an "Uptime" so to speak

I agree that the feeling of Duelist Stance is clunky, but its a pretty important buff to keep up and removing the cast time and changing nothing else just serves to Reduce Skill Expression and raise the Floor overall...

with that being said i'm not particularly in favor of this change unless Duelist Stance gets some Accompanied Nerf along with making it an instant cast, Either by making it suffer a longer GCD time (think paint Target) or by making the buff duration shorter (so that you need to use it even more regularly...

Otherwise its free real estate, and will just give BH's more action economy

EDIT: as an addendum, if we keep the cast time as it is and just make it so moving doesn't cancel it then that's less of an issue, But definitely shouldn't be changed in the vain of COB, Stand Fast, ETC.
 
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Forte said:
Okay but all of these abilities you've listed have substantial cooldowns... They are not abilites that require an "Uptime" so to speak

I agree that the feeling of Duelist Stance is clunky, but its a pretty important buff to keep up and removing the cast time and changing nothing else just serves to Reduce Skill Expression and raise the Floor overall...

with that being said i'm not particularly in favor of this change unless Duelist Stance gets some Accompanied Nerf along with making it an instant cast, Either by making it suffer a longer GCD time (think paint Target) or by making the buff duration shorter (so that you need to use it even more regularly...

Otherwise its free real estate, and will just give BH's more action economy

EDIT: as an addendum, if we keep the cast time as it is and just make it so moving doesn't cancel it then that's less of an issue, But definitely shouldn't be changed in the vain of COB, Stand Fast, ETC.
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Pv is not to remove the cast timer, just allow you to move while casting.
 
It adds dynamism to combat and forces tactical choices rather than just spamming buttons whilst kiting around a pillar. No need for this or for further buffs to BHs.
 
Forte said:
Okay but all of these abilities you've listed have substantial cooldowns... They are not abilites that require an "Uptime" so to speak

I agree that the feeling of Duelist Stance is clunky, but its a pretty important buff to keep up and removing the cast time and changing nothing else just serves to Reduce Skill Expression and raise the Floor overall...

with that being said i'm not particularly in favor of this change unless Duelist Stance gets some Accompanied Nerf along with making it an instant cast, Either by making it suffer a longer GCD time (think paint Target) or by making the buff duration shorter (so that you need to use it even more regularly...

Otherwise its free real estate, and will just give BH's more action economy

EDIT: as an addendum, if we keep the cast time as it is and just make it so moving doesn't cancel it then that's less of an issue, But definitely shouldn't be changed in the vain of COB, Stand Fast, ETC.
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This is asking to having it cast while moving not cancel the cast time. Glad you’re on board lol.
 
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