Mass PvP should be prioritized over BH tefs

Mass PvP should be prioritized over BH tefs
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ShadowNova82

Proposal
- Change how the BH/Jedi tef works to prevent intentional culling during mass PvP.

- Specifically: if a Jedi is flagged SF prior to the initiation of a bh tef, it should not prevent the Jedi from receiving support from other flagged players. However, if a BH initiates the tef while the Jedi is on leave or combatant, the Jedi should be unable to /pvp to avoid abusing/cheesing the system.
Justification
- Currently, even while engaged in mass PvP a Jedi ceases being able to receive any kind of support from other SF flagged players once a BH initiates a tef.

- During mass PvP players from both factions are swapping to a BH character (or leaving on their active BH), pulling a SF Jedi’s mission, and then using this mechanic to intentionally cull Jedi out of a fight rather than countering it organically in the spirit of mass PvP.
Motivation
- Jedi should have a place in mass PvP that isn’t circumvented by players using the tef system to cheese a kill for ghosting.
Ultimately Jedi will still have to contend with visibility and mass reporting by opposing players if present for an extended period of PvP. This will result in an accelerated timeframe for being Vadered while also being the likely focus of the opposing factions players.

The resto specific mechanics are more than enough to limit both the time and number of Jedi that are able to be present before being forced to leave due to Inquisitors and Vader. The BH tef as it currently exists is an unnecessary for balance and being used in a manner that is not keeping with the spirit of the type of PvP that is actively occurring.
 
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Down vote a Jedi deciding to go to PvP with a bounty or high vis being tef’d by inquis or BHs you’re putting yourself in that situation.
 
TEF systems in general have always been awkward from a logical perspective. But, they are an important way to shoehorn in the desired lore - namely, that jedi are at great risk using their powers in public and they're constantly being hunted.

If jedi do join in GCW fights, the idea is that they better get in and get out quickly before the BHs arrive. I believe that is working as intended.
 
I’m going to entertain this so the naysayers are going to need to try a little harder. Ostensibly, it doesn’t make sense that in a world PvP situation (e.g., a city invasion with active participants from both factions), the technicality of a bounty hunter initiating a TEF should lock out the Jedi from support. This situation where there’s already ongoing world PvP is different from the original scenarios that inspired the current structure of TEF exclusion of ally support for Jedi.
 
Apparently we learn nothing about how people will adjust to wielding mechanics as a built in defense. Or the impact Jedi already have on world PvP (spoiler alert-both sides just log off). Downvote for me
 
No problem with them receiving aid except that those that are "seen" helping a Jedi are now sympathizers and should go on the boards along with the Jedi. The BH lockput is something that should be fixed but there needs to be penalities for Jedi and those helping them especially when you see multiple Jedi appear at the same time and same place. That would attract a lot of attention and if Vader appears well he should zap anyone Jedi and those helping them. IF he appears.
 
As it is well known it is extremely difficult to hunt Jedi who are doing heroics due to the gunship , yes i am aware the gunship got a nerf but that is still not enough in my opinion.
And now Jedi get to hide behind world pvp , Bounty Hunters should be getting better mechanics to hunt Jedi not worse ways to NOT hunt them .
This argument that world pvp takes precedent over BH's is just nonsense , Jedi with high visibility made their choice to participate in GCW, It wasn't the BH , when a BH looks at the board , they don't get to see the name of the target until the droids get sent out , so to suggest BH go out of their way to lock out Jedi during a world pvp fight is a bit of a stretch.
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jcan0918 said:
As it is well known it is extremely difficult to hunt Jedi who are doing heroics due to the gunship , yes i am aware the gunship got a nerf but that is still not enough in my opinion.
And now Jedi get to hide behind world pvp , Bounty Hunters should be getting better mechanics to hunt Jedi not worse ways to NOT hunt them .
This argument that world pvp takes precedent over BH's is just nonsense , Jedi with high visibility made their choice to participate in GCW, It wasn't the BH , when a BH looks at the board , they don't get to see the name of the target until the droids get sent out , so to suggest BH go out of their way to lock out Jedi during a world pvp fight is a bit of a stretch.
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tell us you dont pvp without telling us you dont pvp
 
For every time people log off because of Jedi, there’s times where even more people log on due to pings cause everyone wants to ghost the Jedi. It’s just as common for for the fight to increase in intensity as be snuffed. The same arguments apply to completely lopsided numbers during GCW PvP.

I have yet to see a single instance of mass PvP where a some poor innocent BH shows up and misses an opportunity to BH. It’s 100% of the time done specifically to use the current tef system to 1v20 the Jedi.
 
seroc said:
tell us you dont pvp without telling us you dont pvp
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At least try to make a logical counter argument IF you can find one , here ill give you one possible scenario :
Lets say there is some world pvp and there is 4 Jedi declared special forces and there comes 2 Bounty Hunters for their mark , given the Jedi are special forces , it is safe to assume they are well practiced in pvp , how do you think 2 BH's are going to fare against 4 Jedi and that is not even taking into consideration the other SF players involved. So really it is the BHs getting locked out from doing their game play loop .
P.S. Tell me you are a snowflake without telling me you are a snowflake
 
jcan0918 said:
At least try to make a logical counter argument IF you can find one , here ill give you one possible scenario :
Lets say there is some world pvp and there is 4 Jedi declared special forces and there comes 2 Bounty Hunters for their mark , given the Jedi are special forces , it is safe to assume they are well practiced in pvp , how do you think 2 BH's are going to fare against 4 Jedi and that is not even taking into consideration the other SF players involved. So really it is the BHs getting locked out from doing their game play loop .
P.S. Tell me you are a snowflake without telling me you are a snowflake
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lol oh bless your heart

I am against this pv. you are just objectively wrong. BH's absolutely currently specifically look for the bounty of jedis in pvp. you are naive if you legit dont think they do
 
seroc said:
lol oh bless your heart

I am against this pv. you are just objectively wrong. BH's absolutely currently specifically look for the bounty of jedis in pvp. you are naive if you legit dont think they do
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Lets run with your logic and say that is 100% true , who has more control how these situations unfold ? The Jedi who knowingly having high visibility decides to go SF or the BHs who are checking the boards where no names are being displayed ?
 
jcan0918 said:
Lets run with your logic and say that is 100% true , who has more control how these situations unfold ? The Jedi who knowingly having high visibility decides to go SF or the BHs who are checking the boards where no names are being displayed ?
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it sincerely sounds like you are a garbo bounty hunter or dont understand the system. i at any point can ask any of the good bhs whats my bounty and they know it because they are working the system. you want a logical response heres one...

git gud.
 
Tyr said:
No problem with them receiving aid except that those that are "seen" helping a Jedi are now sympathizers and should go on the boards along with the Jedi. The BH lockput is something that should be fixed but there needs to be penalities for Jedi and those helping them especially when you see multiple Jedi appear at the same time and same place. That would attract a lot of attention and if Vader appears well he should zap anyone Jedi and those helping them. IF he appears.
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this is hot af do it

can vader have good loot?
 
If the system pulled the Jedi out of SF TEF and put them in a 1vx fight with the bounty hunters this would make sense that it impacts their gameplay loop, but as it stands...The Bounty Hunters are now competing with 10+ players for the deathblow to claim the bounty. I cant imagine complaining about a 5% chance to claim the bounty effecting them.
 
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