Command /pet transfer

MantaRay · Feb 22, 2025

I know this isn't the first time this problem has come up.

MantaRay · Feb 22, 2025

Dantris said:
Really bad idea. If there was an option like the ID race changes just for CH then there will always be someone that charges the least possible amount.

The market would go stale. We do not need an economy like other servers. We are quite healthy when it comes to the market. No reason to fix something that is not broken

You simply buy an armor or a weapon. You have to take care of a pet. And I don't think there are many accounts where there are 2 master CH at the same time.

Tyr · Feb 22, 2025

MantaRay said:
You simply buy an armor or a weapon. You have to take care of a pet. And I don't think there are many accounts where there are 2 master CH at the same time.

What does that have to do with it negatively impacting BE? And you do have to take care of your armor and weapons by fixing them, mouf mud for pvp, insurance, etc. And what does 2 MCH have to do with anything? My Jedi and another alt were both MCH so just because you don't think there might or might not be is pointless without data and really doesn't matter.

At this point you are just trying to argue for it because you want it and nothing more. This is only an issue if you go Jedi and that is a choice. I could have used my other alt that incited to be it but I did not. That applies to everyone. If you drop CH for other reasons you can always get it back so no problems there.

MantaRay · Feb 22, 2025

Tyr said:
What does that have to do with it negatively impacting BE? And you do have to take care of your armor and weapons by fixing them, mouf mud for pvp, insurance, etc. And what does 2 MCH have to do with anything? My Jedi and another alt were both MCH so just because you don't think there might or might not be is pointless without data and really doesn't matter.

At this point you are just trying to argue for it because you want it and nothing more. This is only an issue if you go Jedi and that is a choice. I could have used my other alt that incited to be it but I did not. That applies to everyone. If you drop CH for other reasons you can always get it back so no problems there.

You know, there are people who love the game and not just to be a Jedi. It's not just about PvP. It's also about having a Jedi character.

Tyr · Feb 22, 2025

MantaRay said:
You know, there are people who love the game and not just to be a Jedi. It's not just about PvP. It's also about having a Jedi character.

So what does that mean? Your pets do not decay and it is your choice to make your CH a Jedi or not. Again you seem to be just saying you want it because you want it.

MantaRay · Feb 22, 2025

Tyr said:
So what does that mean? Your pets do not decay and it is your choice to make your CH a Jedi or not. Again you seem to be just saying you want it because you want it.

Raising a pet is not like buying a suit of armor or a weapon. That's why I consider it a punishment not to be able to hand over the alt.

MantaRay · Feb 22, 2025

Tyr said:
So what does that mean? Your pets do not decay and it is your choice to make your CH a Jedi or not. Again you seem to be just saying you want it because you want it.

And look back. This isn't the first post on this topic. Maybe it's just me who's bothered.

Tyr · Feb 22, 2025

MantaRay said:
And look back. This isn't the first post on this topic. Maybe it's just me who's bothered.

Weak argument. There are people who are bothered by a lot of things but that doesn't mean the game mechanic needs changed and looking back it was a no and the Devs just told you We’ve said no to this before because it’s not good for business of Bio-Engineer. Unlikely a different outcome would come of this...Nothing you have said changes this unless you are suggesting Pet Decay to along with it. There are people who are "bothered" that they cant be Jedi from day one, should we change it to cater them? Oh wait but then we would have to change again because there are people "bothered" that you could do that. Round and round that kind of response will get you.

MantaRay · Feb 22, 2025

Tyr said:
Weak argument. There are people who are bothered by a lot of things but that doesn't mean the game mechanic needs changed and looking back it was a no and the Devs just told you We’ve said no to this before because it’s not good for business of Bio-Engineer. Unlikely a different outcome would come of this...Nothing you have said changes this unless you are suggesting Pet Decay to along with it. There are people who are "bothered" that they cant be Jedi from day one, should we change it to cater them? Oh wait but then we would have to change again because there are people "bothered" that you could do that. Round and round that kind of response will get you.

Do you think this will cause the BE market to collapse? No. There will always be new CH characters. Maybe if 1% of players are affected by this problem. Originally, the prehistoric swg included the command. And making everyone a Jedi would lead to the death of the server. See SOE SWG.

Tyr · Feb 22, 2025

MantaRay said:
Do you think this will cause the BE market to collapse? No. There will always be new CH characters. Maybe if 1% of players are affected by this problem. Originally, the prehistoric swg included the command. And making everyone a Jedi would lead to the death of the server. See SOE SWG.

Ok well carry on. The devs just told you because it’s not good for business of Bio-Engineer but you want to ignore it and everything else that has been said. Ok that is fine. You want it because you want it. Oh and Live also let you have more than 1 pet out at a time, should we do that also? You make weird comments about the original had the command but then argue against the original with the Jedi comment lol. Sorry downvote

MantaRay · Feb 22, 2025

Tyr said:
Ok well carry on. The devs just told you because it’s not good for business of Bio-Engineer but you want to ignore it and everything else that has been said. Ok that is fine. You want it because you want it. Oh and Live also let you have more than 1 pet out at a time, should we do that also? You make weird comments about the original had the command but then argue against the original with the Jedi comment lol. Sorry downvote

You had no argument, just that the developers wouldn't allow it. Congratulations.

Tyr · Feb 22, 2025

MantaRay said:
You had no argument, just that the developers wouldn't allow it. Congratulations.

Thank you. They also said why which is the argument. And nothing you have said has nullified their reason.

MantaRay · Feb 22, 2025

Tyr said:
Thank you. They also said why which is the argument. And nothing you have said has nullified their reason.

You could have at least read what I wrote. But you can't say anything else about a former senator.

Ironside · Feb 22, 2025

Hi, been on the server for about a week , maybe two. I'm just about to learn novice CH and then I see this post. I haven't played SWG since the lights went out at SOE and started playing from launch in 2003. So I'm a little confused on this post.

So if I'm reading this thread correctly, MCH is basically a self serving class? You can't trade pets or sell pets? Is that the case with BE too? If so then what really is the point of having those classes to choose from? What is the issue with selling or trading pets? When did tames acquire feelings or is loyalty being called feelings now?

I spent a lot of time researching the pros and cons of all the servers before finally picking this one. I heard a lot of people saying this server basically killed the scout and ranger class but the server was a CUish server that had JTL. I was excited.

Someone please explain what a MCH and BE can exactly do when it comes to the community as a whole. Because if those professions are basically nerfed so its basically a "look at me I have a pet" thing then I need to reconsider where i'm spending my valuable time and recommendations.

MantaRay · Feb 22, 2025

Ironside said:
Hi, been on the server for about a week , maybe two. I'm just about to learn novice CH and then I see this post. I haven't played SWG since the lights went out at SOE and started playing from launch in 2003. So I'm a little confused on this post.

So if I'm reading this thread correctly, MCH is basically a self serving class? You can't trade pets or sell pets? Is that the case with BE too? If so then what really is the point of having those classes to choose from? What is the issue with selling or trading pets? When did tames acquire feelings or is loyalty being called feelings now?

I spent a lot of time researching the pros and cons of all the servers before finally picking this one. I heard a lot of people saying this server basically killed the scout and ranger class but the server was a CUish server that had JTL. I was excited.

Someone please explain what a MCH and BE can exactly do when it comes to the community as a whole. Because if those professions are basically nerfed so its basically a "look at me I have a pet" thing then I need to reconsider where i'm spending my valuable time and recommendations.

CH basically only traded eggs. Which. BE can process. A good playable character but if you give CH back you can only put your animals in rooms as decorations. You can't sell a fighting pet to anyone, only a rideable animal. You can do a lot of things with the help of a pet alone.

MantaRay · Feb 22, 2025

Aconite said:
We’ve said no to this before because it’s not good for business of Bio-Engineer. Unlikely a different outcome would come of this but I’ll leave it open for funzies

Thank you for not closing the post. At least this way you can see the arguments for and against. After all, that would be the task of Player Voice.

Ironside · Feb 22, 2025

MantaRay said:
CH basically only traded eggs. Which. BE can process. A good playable character but if you give CH back you can only put your animals in rooms as decorations. You can't sell a fighting pet to anyone, only a rideable animal. You can do a lot of things with the help of a pet alone.

So a non CH can't use combat pets like in the old days? They can only be used as mounts?

MantaRay · Feb 22, 2025

Ironside said:
So a non CH can't use combat pets like in the old days? They can only be used as mounts?

Exactly. Non-CH can only use battle droid lvl 10 different.

Tyr · Feb 22, 2025

Ironside said:
Hi, been on the server for about a week , maybe two. I'm just about to learn novice CH and then I see this post. I haven't played SWG since the lights went out at SOE and started playing from launch in 2003. So I'm a little confused on this post.

So if I'm reading this thread correctly, MCH is basically a self serving class? You can't trade pets or sell pets? Is that the case with BE too? If so then what really is the point of having those classes to choose from? What is the issue with selling or trading pets? When did tames acquire feelings or is loyalty being called feelings now?

I spent a lot of time researching the pros and cons of all the servers before finally picking this one. I heard a lot of people saying this server basically killed the scout and ranger class but the server was a CUish server that had JTL. I was excited.

Someone please explain what a MCH and BE can exactly do when it comes to the community as a whole. Because if those professions are basically nerfed so its basically a "look at me I have a pet" thing then I need to reconsider where i'm spending my valuable time and recommendations.

CH can still tame pets and mounts and sell the eggs and the mounts. CH is the 2nd most played combat class on the server so it is fine. BE makes the best pets but they do more than just pets. Your research seems a bit off or outdated as scout is fine and ranger just got some nice loving. CH is nice for folks who enjoy solo play and group play and like every class has its pro and con. So BE makes and sells the best pets and CH can tame and sell pets/mounts.

Manta is just trying to trade/sell his fully grown pet because he lost CH as Jedi (which as pointed out to him was a choice, he could wait for another alt to incite) but he apparently has buyers remorse. The devs have said no in the past and repeated it here by saying because it’s not good for business of Bio-Engineer BE is a lot of time and effort and contributes to the player economy which is quite good here compared to other servers. It is not broke so no need to change it.

Edit - Pets don't decay/age so that pet is forever. That becomes a problem as time goes by and there are permanent pets everywhere. I mean if you want pet decay/aging ....

Tyr · Feb 22, 2025

MantaRay said:
Thank you for not closing the post. At least this way you can see the arguments for and against. After all, that would be the task of Player Voice.

Well really they encourage folks to go through the Senator first before doing a PV but hey...

Ironside · Feb 22, 2025

Tyr said:
CH can still tame pets and mounts and sell the eggs and the mounts. CH is the 2nd most played combat class on the server so it is fine. BE makes the best pets but they do more than just pets. Your research seems a bit off or outdated as scout is fine and ranger just got some nice loving. CH is nice for folks who enjoy solo play and group play and like every class has its pro and con. So BE makes and sells the best pets and CH can tame and sell pets/mounts.

Manta is just trying to trade/sell his fully grown pet because he lost CH as Jedi (which as pointed out to him was a choice, he could wait for another alt to incite) but he apparently has buyers remorse. The devs have said no in the past and repeated it here by saying because it’s not good for business of Bio-Engineer BE is a lot of time and effort and contributes to the player economy which is quite good here compared to other servers. It is not broke so no need to change it.

I will admit that a lot of the videos I watched on Youtube about the server were older videos and that's where I got the info on Scout and Ranger. Most of the videos are about a year or so old. My apologies.

I personally never had an interest in Jedi since day one. I did, however, enjoy taming combat pets for my BH alt who did not have CH. So that is not a thing now or do I just skip CH and go BE to make combat pets for my non CH alt? It's been a really long time since I played so I apologize for any confusion.