Tweak Guardian Strike to not depend on melee accuracy

Xenolution · 2026-01-08T22:15:17+0000

Currently, Guardian Strike is a melee attack, and the hate it generates is dependent on being able to hit the ability on enemies.
This makes a Powers/Defender tank much less viable, leaving mLS/mDef tanks as the only decent option for NM heroics.
Since defender is a separate tree from lightsabers, would it be unreasonable to make Guardian Strike an ability usable by mSaber/mDef or powers/mDef builds, so both could tank effectively?
I'm not saying change the range, just untie it from melee accuracy so that all who take mDef can use it properly.

Glorfindel · 2026-01-08T22:41:21+0000

This should have been done back when BH, Smug, Ranger, etc. were all made dual melee/ranged classes. It must have been an oversight.
Up vote.

Nidums · 2026-01-08T23:14:48+0000

Considering mEnhance tanks all the content just fine without it and so do normies don't think this is needed

seroc · 2026-01-08T23:29:37+0000

Nidums said:
Considering mEnhance tanks all the content just fine without it and so do normies don't think this is needed

it doesn't though nor does it hold aggro against a geared out group

zerim2 · 2026-01-08T23:31:26+0000

Don't agree with making guardian strike work with ranged accuracy. There are other issues such as GS incurring a gcd based on your saber speed that would make it very clunky.

That being said, I have no issue with powers/defender being a viable tank. Dominate mind should effect all heroic bosses in my opinion.

Glorfindel · 2026-01-08T23:36:26+0000

Nidums said:
Considering mEnhance tanks all the content just fine without it and so do normies don't think this is needed

Lmao, alright you go make your own PV to delete Guardian Strike. But until that's approved stop trolling an absolute no-brainer of a PV.

Glorfindel · 2026-01-08T23:37:59+0000

zerim2 said:
Don't agree with making guardian strike work with ranged accuracy. There are other issues such as GS incurring a gcd based on your saber speed that would make it very clunky.

That being said, I have no issue with powers/defender being a viable tank. Dominate mind should effect all heroic bosses in my opinion.

In Expanding Horizons, they just created a parallel ability for ranged/melee. Seems like a pretty easy fix.

Nidums · 2026-01-08T23:44:52+0000

Glorfindel said:
Lmao, alright you go make your own PV to delete Guardian Strike. But until that's approved stop trolling an absolute no-brainer of a PV.

Why is it a no brainer? Sorry for wanting certain things to have more of an identity then just make everything work for everything. If you want to be more creative maybe come up with something thoughtful.

Glorfindel · 2026-01-08T23:54:04+0000

Nidums said:
Why is it a no brainer? Sorry for wanting certain things to have more of an identity then just make everything work for everything. If you want to be more creative maybe come up with something thoughtful.

That's exactly what this does. It gives defender it's own identity that isn't butt hugging MLS.

zerim2 · 2026-01-08T23:59:34+0000

Glorfindel said:
That's exactly what this does. It gives defender it's own identity that isn't butt hugging MLS.

Class identity shouldn't be exclusively tied to heroics either. Powers/defender is an awesome PvP build.

That being said, if dominate mind worked on every boss powers could tank no issue.

Randolo · 2026-01-09T00:32:31+0000

seroc said:
it doesn't though nor does it hold aggro against a geared out group

It does and it can.

It’s been done many times before and some people will continue to do it that way too out of preference

Nidums · 2026-01-09T00:38:35+0000

seroc said:
it doesn't though nor does it hold aggro against a geared out group

I hate to be that guy but it's a skill issue :|

Glorfindel · 2026-01-09T00:47:52+0000

All you gotta do is let the enhancer tank get the boss to half health by himself to build up enough threat. Then the DPS can open up.

seroc · 2026-01-09T00:48:46+0000

Randolo said:
It does and it can.

It’s been done many times before and some people will continue to do it that way too out of preference

sure lots off folks do but the comment was it does all content which it doesnt mhancer is not nm tank

seroc · 2026-01-09T00:49:17+0000

Glorfindel said:
All you gotta do is let the enhancer tank get the boss to half health by himself to build up enough threat. Then the DPS can open up.

^^ this right here. good luck holding aggro on mhancer in nm (assuming you dont die) on beregond.

seroc · 2026-01-09T00:50:18+0000

Nidums said:
I hate to be that guy but it's a skill issue :|

in this case probably shouldnt be that guy, youre not going to hold aggro in a nm group comp. nor are you going to be tanking in a nm group

Nidums · 2026-01-09T01:04:48+0000

seroc said:
in this case probably shouldnt be that guy, youre not going to hold aggro in a nm group comp. nor are you going to be tanking in a nm group

Why does it seem like half the server is brain washed by the grouping discord, we've been running all NM heroics just fine since January with mEnhance and normie tanks, there's never been agro issues and we've never had to "wait" to dps.

Glorfindel · 2026-01-09T01:10:41+0000

Only one way to solve this. Gotta bring the MEnhancer tank into our run and see if he holds aggro!

Randolo · 2026-01-09T02:19:43+0000

seroc said:
in this case probably shouldnt be that guy, youre not going to hold aggro in a nm group comp. nor are you going to be tanking in a nm group

Plenty of non pickup nm groups run enhancer tanks and have for a long time.

Some guild groups are running lancer tanks in nightmare. Imagine that!

Felonious419 · 2026-01-09T02:55:39+0000

I think we’ve gotten off topic…again yes normies can tank NM yes enhancers can tank nightmare it’s not gonna be the fastest run probably gonna have some wipes…with this being said ranged accuracy and melee accuracy should both apply to guardian strike upvote