Color Crystals with Randomized Attributes

Color Crystals with Randomized Attributes
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mazymay

mazymay

Proposal
A color crystal should not have a designated attribute (e.g., force regeneration for light green, force damage for red, etc.). Rather, when a jedi tunes a color crystal, the color crystal will reveal a random attribute for that color crystal. For example, depending on the color crystal, a light green color crystal can yield force regeneration for one color crystal of that color and yield lightsaber damage for another color crystal of that color.
Justification
Having designated attributes based on a color crystal's color severely limits a jedi's aesthetic preferences and identity. Having arbitrary attributes attached to a color limits jedi players' roleplaying, aesthetic preferences, and identity in the Order. Moreover, from a Star Wars lore perspective, a jedi meditates on the force to find and tune their crystal. A jedi crystal and attributes are not preordained. The randomized function promotes this theme found in Star Wars lore.
Motivation
To promote aesthetic flexibility and jedi individualism and be more consistent with Star Wars lore.
Color Crystals with Randomized Attributes
 
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Great suggestion, it can also make Color Crystals more valuable to keep and sell to the Jedi players.

It does seem like they are open to this approach. Credit: ornj (click on the name)
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Well I posted before and will post here again from older posts for this:

Aconite℠ — 06/10/2024 4:19 PM yes ilum will let you grow your own crystals with your own stats

Aconite℠ — 05/04/2024 4:19 PM Regarding Color Crystals:They are going to be entirely redesigned when Ilum is added. Some things may stay the same, some things will change. We intentionally focused on an interim workable solution when approaching the color crystal implementation that exists today. We will not be making changes to them until Ilum is released, so please taper your expectations and complaints accordingly.

Eventually this is coming.
 
Tyr said:
Well I posted before and will post here again from older posts for this:

Aconite℠ — 06/10/2024 4:19 PM yes ilum will let you grow your own crystals with your own stats

Aconite℠ — 05/04/2024 4:19 PM Regarding Color Crystals:They are going to be entirely redesigned when Ilum is added. Some things may stay the same, some things will change. We intentionally focused on an interim workable solution when approaching the color crystal implementation that exists today. We will not be making changes to them until Ilum is released, so please taper your expectations and complaints accordingly.

Eventually this is coming.
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I think the fact that it's been coming up so much it is a topic people care about more than originally thought, and a quick fix probably is of best interest until Ilum comes out. There are many things that need to come first, and I can't imagine it coming this year, so a quick fix of the stats is a way better solution until it comes.

I imagine it will be a lot more than "random stats" and such, so there is that too.
 
Derpyh said:
I think the fact that it's been coming up so much it is a topic people care about more than originally thought, and a quick fix probably is of best interest until Ilum comes out. There are many things that need to come first, and I can't imagine it coming this year, so a quick fix of the stats is a way better solution until it comes.

I imagine it will be a lot more than "random stats" and such, so there is that too.
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Yes of course just have the Devs take time away for a "quick fix" that they will then get rid of when it does come out and slow everything else down......how about people just have patience. Most seem to be ok with the answer once they see it and just did not look back to research before making pv. And you doing a pv and now this one doesn't seem to me to be "coming up so much" as you put it.

Edit - We will not be making changes to them until Ilum is released, so please taper your expectations and complaints accordingly.

I know that person has stepped back so you are hoping to get it changed from a NO to something else.
 
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Tyr said:
Yes of course just have the Devs take time away for a "quick fix" that they will then get rid of when it does come out and slow everything else down......how about people just have patience. Most seem to be ok with the answer once they see it and just did not look back to research before making pv. And you doing a pv and now this one doesn't seem to me to be "coming up so much" as you put it.
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It's a quick fix. It's a code already used by several items. I don't imagine it would take that much time since its so common in the game.
 
Derpyh said:
Its a code already in the game, you take the code and assign the string of statistics to each one then copy and paste the code on all current crystals. It will affect new ones but not old ones.

It's a quick fix.
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Edit - We will not be making changes to them until Ilum is released, so please taper your expectations and complaints accordingly.

I know that person has stepped back so you are hoping to get it changed from a NO to something else.
 
Tyr said:
Edit - We will not be making changes to them until Ilum is released, so please taper your expectations and complaints accordingly.

I know that person has stepped back so you are hoping to get it changed from a NO to something else.
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Ornj was the one who suggested this kind of idea originally if I recall and the suggestion was done after said statement was made. Why not let them reply for themselves. Mindlessly reposting old information is confusing to new players.

Why not copy and paste the statement that Jedi would never come out too?

This also isn't my PV. Reply to the other guy.
 
Derpyh said:
Ornj was the one who suggested this kind of idea originally if I recall and the suggestion was done after said statement was made. Why not let them reply for themselves. Mindlessly reposting old information is confusing to new players.

Why not copy and paste the statement that Jedi would never come out too?
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Ok post what he said. And that information is not old it is from Spring (which is why dates are included). You just have issues with patience and no one else's opinion matters but yours even when they said what they are going to do. Waiting for Ilum no big thing.
 
Tyr said:
Ok post what he said. And that information is not old it is from Spring (which is why dates are included). You just have issues with patience and no one else's opinion matters but yours even when they said what they are going to do. Waiting for Ilum no big thing.
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ornj said:
The current color crystal implementation is definitely flawed, but it was just what we could do at the time. There are plans to drastically expand the color crystal customization though, as Tyr mentioned. A possibly simpler approach to take in the meantime would be to allow color crystals to "tune" into a random stat, rather than one fixed by their color, so you could find the right color/stat pairing that you like.
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The fact they were replying to also your previous copy+paste information makes this really ironic.

I can't imagine why your against this idea so much, it's idiotic honestly since it keeps popping up and your posting the same thing and excluding new information.
 
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Derpyh said:
I can't imagine why your against this idea so much, it's idiotic honestly since it keeps popping up and your posting the same thing and excluding new information.
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You are the only one saying I am against it. I am all for the crystal changes. Just when Ilum comes if they can't do easy quick changes that don't take away from stuff like Syndicate, FRS etc.
 
Tyr said:
You are the only one saying I am against it. I am all for the crystal changes. Just when Ilum comes if they can't do easy quick changes that don't take away from stuff like Syndicate, FRS etc.
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When it pops up in multiple threads and you attempt to shoot down the idea it shows you are against it.

The changes don't take away from FRS/Synd, its a quick fix to an already existing system. It wouldn't take away or add anything because it already exists. It is literally just allowing crystals to have random stats from what they already have.

It's a simple quality of life fix.
 
Derpyh said:
When it pops up in multiple threads and you attempt to shoot down the idea it shows you are against it.

The changes don't take away from FRS/Synd, its a quick fix to an already existing system. It wouldn't take away or add anything because it already exists. It is literally just allowing crystals to have random stats from what they already have.

It's a simple quality of life fix.
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I forgot you got elected Dev..oh wait.....When the Dev team says they will or do it I will listen to them and 2 threads it is in..2....and I didn't and don't shoot it down. I just say changes are coming according to this and this and lets not waste time changing if it is all going to change again unless the changes they make stay and are quick and easy as you claim.
 
Derpyh said:
When it pops up in multiple threads and you attempt to shoot down the idea it shows you are against it.

The changes don't take away from FRS/Synd, its a quick fix to an already existing system. It wouldn't take away or add anything because it already exists. It is literally just allowing crystals to have random stats from what they already have.

It's a simple quality of life fix.
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Bold of you to assume something is ever simple here. I'm against this because I'd rather wait for a fully finished implementation, then something half baked and quickly done.
 
we all know spaghetti person has a full roadmap for jedi and crystals and jedi knight trials , a FULL roadmap .................
 
I think this would be an awesome idea. I am kind of leaning towards having this ability when someone becomes a Jedi Knight.

I am assuming that the next phase of Jedi would be a ranking system. I think this would go VERY nicely when someone becomes a Jedi Knight.

I started thinking about Balance ....... perhaps a defense buff for non Jedi roles to negate this effect. But offer none to the Jedi class. My thinking is, it would create more Jedi on Jedi combat in PvP ... thus making non Jedi roles more viable.
 
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For the sanity of the development team, absolutely under no circumstances may anyone post or attach code to us. Thanks.
 
SagoMactow said:
I think this would be an awesome idea. I am kind of leaning towards having this ability when someone becomes a Jedi Knight.

I am assuming that the next phase of Jedi would be a ranking system. I think this would go VERY nicely when someone becomes a Jedi Knight.

I started thinking about Balance ....... perhaps a defense buff for non Jedi roles to negate this effect. But offer none to the Jedi class. My thinking is, it would create more Jedi on Jedi combat in PvP ... thus making non Jedi roles more viable.
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This is what they said is coming (and it will annoy Cryka) in the future ...

Aconite℠ — 06/10/2024 4:19 PM yes ilum will let you grow your own crystals with your own stats

Aconite℠ — 05/04/2024 4:19 PM Regarding Color Crystals:They are going to be entirely redesigned when Ilum is added. Some things may stay the same, some things will change. We intentionally focused on an interim workable solution when approaching the color crystal implementation that exists today. We will not be making changes to them until Ilum is released, so please taper your expectations and complaints accordingly.
 
Tyr said:
This is what they said is coming (and it will annoy Cryka) in the future ...

Aconite℠ — 06/10/2024 4:19 PM yes ilum will let you grow your own crystals with your own stats

Aconite℠ — 05/04/2024 4:19 PM Regarding Color Crystals:They are going to be entirely redesigned when Ilum is added. Some things may stay the same, some things will change. We intentionally focused on an interim workable solution when approaching the color crystal implementation that exists today. We will not be making changes to them until Ilum is released, so please taper your expectations and complaints accordingly.
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Thank you for the information. ... But I am trying to find what I posted in ..... what you posted.
 
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