Make Master Bounty Hunter Great again

Make Master Bounty Hunter Great again
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Felonious419

Proposal
Make player bounties require Master Bounty Hunter in order to hunt players
Justification
Bounty hunters are the only class that can force pvp on players at any given time they want with the ability to strike first. Some of these tilted builds as we all know are impossible to 1v1 let alone 3v1. I believe that requiring MBH to hunt players instead of 4xxx would not only coincide with lore more but it would allow for a more balanced ecosystem in hunting. Master Smug is required to run the pvp underworld missions so it would be in similar line with this. I believe that making this change to Bounty Hunting would also allow other classes to shine in areas they should withouBt everyone asking for a nerf on them. MCH/MDoc 4xxx BH is not a bounty hunter that is a side profession and that build may have a place in other areas of the game but is an impossible task for anyone to 1v1. This change would also effect the BH/Jedi build so many people despised. Those are just a few of the tilted builds that some have gotten creative with and though creative they dont belong forcing pvp upon people in unwinable scenarios.
Motivation
I believe these changes to provide a more balnced ecosystem of PvP and do away wit ah this watered down version of Bounty Hunting. Bounty Hunting is a Mastery profession allowing 4xxx to hunt players has turned that class into a dipping pool for peoples hobbies.
Make BH great again. and give bounties a fighting chance.
 
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I like the idea. You're not limiting unique builds, you're staying in form with the archetype. The cool thing is you can pair anything with MBH but when you stretch it past 2 classes its like you're not even fighting a BH anymore. My 2 cents is ^vote.
 
Fingers crossed we get the jedi, inquisitor, bh love triangle in the next patch. If we do who knows what it looks like to change.

I honestly don't care whether it's 4xxx or master but the build diversity is something unique to resto and it makes it all different.

You say doc ch bh4xxx. Well bh 4xxx ain't the issue is the ch part in this current meta but again that will likely shift again like any good game to mix it up and keep it interesting.
 
elvismonkey said:
Fingers crossed we get the jedi, inquisitor, bh love triangle in the next patch. If we do who knows what it looks like to change.

I honestly don't care whether it's 4xxx or master but the build diversity is something unique to resto and it makes it all different.

You say doc ch bh4xxx. Well bh 4xxx ain't the issue is the ch part in this current meta but again that will likely shift again like any good game to mix it up and keep it interesting.
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Just FYI -

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likely changing course on this by the way. it's unclear how we could make this fun, while also interacting in a balanced way with GCW. inquisitors and order will likely be more balanced with each other, but with unique mechanics for how their visibility and TEF systems work, and unique gear/perks (edited)

 
Also keep in mind Ornj has said this as well:

but. i am also very very confident that bounty hunting as it originally was conceived is basically going to die, under the new system. really can't imagine a world where people realize they can 8v1 a bounty target and choose not to do that. same with being a jedi: if i know that i can never be hunted if i only roam around with pocket healers or even just more jedi, why would i do that. bounty hunting just becomes every other kind of world pvp: a numbers game.
 
Tyr said:
Also keep in mind Ornj has said this as well:

but. i am also very very confident that bounty hunting as it originally was conceived is basically going to die, under the new system. really can't imagine a world where people realize they can 8v1 a bounty target and choose not to do that. same with being a jedi: if i know that i can never be hunted if i only roam around with pocket healers or even just more jedi, why would i do that. bounty hunting just becomes every other kind of world pvp: a numbers game.
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Yeah I remember this one.

BH defo doesnt seem dead , but I dont fight back whats the point when its usually 2v1 and they jumped me.
 
Derpyh said:
Homogenizing classes to master only has broke the game's fun for me, imo.
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This is a PV not your personal crying channel , if you want to cry and whine either start your own crying PV or start a thread in the Resto Discord
Anyways , Down vote this PV as this was already discussed over a year ago
 
jcan0918 said:
This is a PV not your personal crying channel , if you want to cry and whine either start your own crying PV or start a thread in the Resto Discord
Anyways , Down vote this PV as this was already discussed over a year ago
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Telling someone they are "Crying" when something was changed to be worse and then asking for that change to another thing. You have to realize these decisions are connected and more of the same ones will bleed into other decisions.

If you don't see that it's fine.
 
Derpyh said:
Telling someone they are "Crying" when something was changed to be worse and then asking for that change to another thing. You have to realize these decisions are connected and more of the same ones will bleed into other decisions.

If you don't see that it's fine.
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Downvoting because it was discussed over a year ago is a really poor reason. People have had an extra year to experiment with it and see how it plays out and many don't like the way it's gone, hence the voice.
 
Maybe I'm reading more into this than is there, but a tangent occurs to me. The PV OP didn't say that hybridized BHs shouldn't be allowed to hunt players, just that they shouldn't be able to take the bounties. Someone with 4xxx is neither Master nor Novice in that given trade... we see this all the time with Medic. So, if someone takes 4xxx BH as a boon to their primary build, they should be able to participate in hunts under the auspices of an MBH. The master gets the contract, and the apprentices do the work.
 
just going to add my point.

There seems to be an influx of players, one guild tag in particular. That seems to be bringing some revised form of role play to bounty hunting on this server recently.


I don’t have an issue with it personally, but don’t throw is upon everyone else and expect others to follow suit.

Player bounties is fine as it is, the flexibility to use your skill points as you wish is what’s makes this version of swg great.

If you force player bounties to only be obtained by being master BH, it removes some of the potential theory builds being used that could improve your experience.




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Dots
 
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MrMushroom said:
just going to add my point.

There seems to be an influx of players, one guild tag in particular. That seems to be bringing some revised form of role play to bounty hunting on this server recently.


I don’t have an issue with it personally, but don’t throw is upon everyone else and expect others to follow suit.

Player bounties is fine as it is, the flexibility to use your skill points as you wish is what’s makes this version of swg great.

If you want MBH to be the only bounty hunter type. Perhaps you can try legends?

If you think MBH alongside other specs is weak? and that 4xxx paired with other builds is stronger? Then you need to learn to play MBH.


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Dots
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That Roleplaying guild got caught buying creds and has since mostly disbanded, you are entitled to feeling like its fine and you are one of if not the top BH on the server and one i respect as you dont use and entirely tilted build. Appreciate you input Dots but agree to disagree.
 
Many of the purely MBH builds are ineffective at BH 1v1. Having the ability to pick up missions at 4xxx means there is more flexibility in builds and more variety in what is coming after you.

This ultimately makes it more fun for PvP'ers, rather than a couple of fotm templates that can 'win'.

It is fine as it is.
 
This is a bad idea, however i'd be down to allow MBHs to get alot more payout for BH missions specificly PVE to make it a viable alternative to terminal grinding.
 
Whilst I agree with the idea I think the issue is broader than BHs able to hunt Jedi/Smugglers with 4xxx, but more about the PvP balance in these interactions. CH is incredibly strong with Pet Revive and the single strongest cleanse in the game for it, along with all the pet abilities. Then we have the insane amount of DOTs available across three BHs who have complementary builds (Ranger, CM, Commando...).

Jedi is very limited in build configurations as they're highly incentivised to get two master boxes, and requires them to be fully buffed at all times whilst they know theyre on the boards. This is balanced by their relative strength and the soon to be introduced 5th gen sabres and FRS but I'd be keen to see a change in Jedi skills and force power box allocation to allow more build variety for them, rather then reverting diversity for BHs.
 
Felonious419 said:
This same FRS system that is going to make SOME jedi stronger is going to make every Bounty Hunter with 4xxx stronger as well with syndicate swell, I didn't make the PV to defend Jedi I simply was voicing my Opinion on the problem with the Ecosystem as it stands.
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we dont know what the ranking systems for Smugglers/BHs/Commandos will introduce, but we do know that Jedi will get 5th gen sabre which will be huge for MLS... and I guess we weep for Powers hah
 
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