Re-egg of CHs Combat Pets via an Item BEs Would Make and Sell

Re-egg of CHs Combat Pets via an Item BEs Would Make and Sell
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JadeMaster

Proposal
Allow a Creature Handler (CH) to re-egg their combat pets to allow the transfer to another character on their own account by implementing an item that a Master Bio-Engineer (BE) can make. A possibility could be an item that a Master BE creates using materials, similar to a regular pet, and takes a comparable amount of time to make the Re-egg item. That time could then be sold to someone who can use it on a combat pet to turn it back into a “No Trade Share” egg.
Justification
This would allow a CH who incites and starts down the path of a Jedi to transfer their pets to another character on the same account. The pet would still need to be relevelled (combat and loyalty), and all skills would need to be acquired and learned.
In addition, a common point presented by the BE community is that allowing free transfers would undermine the BE economy. This option adds another area where BEs can make money by creating the Re-egg items. The item could cost ~5,000,000 credits.
For someone who wants to transfer their Reek, Rancor, and Acklay, this could cost ~15,000,000 credits.
Motivation
When a character incites and becomes a Jedi, a 4th character slot is opened as an option to remake the build of the character that became a Jedi. CHs are one of the only professions that have a significant aspect of their profession locked into just one character and is non-transferable. Thus, not allowing the ability to transfer or continue the old character’s legacy. This means the potential loss of use of very rare creatures such as Blackwings or Mutated Aclays. In any other profession, items that are not bio-linked or no trade, such as armor, weapons, heroic jewelry (even the free set), droids, creature mounts, starships, starship parts, houses, etc., can be transferred from the old character to the new character on the same account and in some cases to other players. This would allow a player who has spent significant time and money acquiring their pets to continue using them on their other character(s), thereby allowing them to continue their CH legacy. Additionally, it would enable the BE community another opportunity to continue earning money from creating and providing the transfer item.
I have seen this topic brought up several times, and I am bringing it up again with a proposed solution to address one of the main issuies brought up.
 
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kcwsooners said:
There's also always the option to not buy a weapon that Biolinked. Let people have a way to re-purchase their pets while saving BE's the struggle of slot-machining their Iso's while also letting players keep the animals they've grown attached to.
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I have never seen a PV about Bio Linked weapons..
 
kcwsooners said:
There's also always the option to not buy a weapon that Biolinked. Let people have a way to re-purchase their pets while saving BE's the struggle of slot-machining their Iso's while also letting players keep the animals they've grown attached to.
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there is also the option that if you incite on a CH that you can still be CH and jedi or wait until you incite on a different character if you value your pets so much
 
Not this again. They already have said no over and over. NO here. I say this as a CH who incited and yes had to stuff my pets. You dont HAVE to select your CH. I have had 2 incite but I made a choice and took the first one that did knowing that I would pay the costs of my pets. I cold have waited and right now I could incite all my alts with the Books so again it is a choice. To be a Jedi means sacrifice.
 
JackNightmare said:
BE here, upvoted. At the very least for jedi. I also think this has potential to expand the BE economy even further since new jedi will be more likely to re-spin CH on their alts. They may only transfer their favorites at that price point and having CH alts always leaves the door open for new pet purchases. Currently, most just drop CH forever.
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If I could have transferred my pets from my Jedi I would never have bought new and better ones.
 
JackNightmare said:
Really makes no difference to me how I get your credits. The point above is clearly talking about people that don't keep CH on account of not being able to trade their pets over.
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And that is a choice. It might be different if they were forced to do it but you can make a choice. Patience is a jedi virtue yet this and the other pv's are about it I want it now and don't want to wait regardless.
 
Tyr said:
And that is a choice. It might be different if they were forced to do it but you can make a choice. Patience is a jedi virtue yet this and the other pv's are about it I want it now and don't want to wait regardless.
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This isnt -just- about jedi, and it sure isnt for the Sith. By your logic, we should be advocating the new jedi/sith character has everything they own, armor, weapons, mounts, and more at the time into a biolinked item. But that would cause massive unrest. Let people buy a way (which not making purchases is the real major stopping point in these pvs) to give their pets to their other characters.
 
kcwsooners said:
This isnt -just- about jedi, and it sure isnt for the Sith. By your logic, we should be advocating the new jedi/sith character has everything they own, armor, weapons, mounts, and more at the time into a biolinked item. But that would cause massive unrest. Let people buy a way (which not making purchases is the real major stopping point in these pvs) to give their pets to their other characters.
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I did not say that at all but guess you decided to take mit that way or twist it. NO is what I said and it is a choice for Jedi. For Non-Jedi that has been answered by the devs and others in all the previous PV's just like this one. No.
 
Tyr said:
I did not say that at all but guess you decided to take mit that way or twist it. NO is what I said and it is a choice for Jedi. For Non-Jedi that has been answered by the devs and others in all the previous PV's just like this one. No.
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The ill see you every month it pops up with every new idea to make it possible until it is implemented then.
 
Tyr said:
Aaah yes the old I will nag the Devs until I get my way strategy. That has worked so well for others.
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My man, whether you dont want this or do want this, how would you implement it? The thread is for feedback not for ripping it apart and shooting it down. Your statements have been just as pointless.
 
kcwsooners said:
My man, whether you dont want this or do want this, how would you implement it? The thread is for feedback not for ripping it apart and shooting it down. Your statements have been just as pointless.
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You are wrong. It if for feedback both for and against or there would not be a downvote button. (and you are forced to comment to downvote.). Not to mention this has no Senate sponsor.
 
As mentioned by several people, including myself, combat pet transfer has been brought up many times (“every month”), which itself says this is a feature that many CHs would like.

Again, as mentioned by several people, including myself, it is something the developers have said no. The developers' main point was that it would destroy the BE economy.

This PV offers a compromise/suggestion that focuses on the developers’ main reasons. By offering the idea that BEs would make and sell an item that would allow for the same account combat pet transfer. This offers a solution that keeps money flowing into the BE community and offers a feature that is constantly requested.
 
Tyr said:
You are wrong. It if for feedback both for and against or there would not be a downvote button.
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It is for good feedback, for or against. I did not say it wasn't, only devalued what 'feedback' you gave.

Now can you do what I requested and say how you would like this implement this if it would be implemented? If the answer is not at all, regardless of anything, I dont see a world where you could justify being in this thread anymore.
 
kcwsooners said:
It is for good feedback, for or against. I did not say it wasn't, only devalued what 'feedback' you gave.

Now can you do what I requested and say how you would like this implement this if it would be implemented? If the answer is not at all, regardless of anything, I dont see a world where you could justify being in this thread anymore.
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Thank you for telling me when I am justified ot be in a thread. This Idea about BE being able to charge to re-egg and such has been brought up before and was shot down along with the others.
 
Tyr said:
Thank you for telling me when I am justified ot be in a thread. This Idea about BE being able to charge to re-egg and such has been brought up before and was shot down along with the others.
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I apologize that you feel that way.
Regardless, can you do what I have asked of you?
 
JadeMaster said:
As mentioned by several people, including myself, combat pet transfer has been brought up many times (“every month”), which itself says this is a feature that many CHs would like.

Again, as mentioned by several people, including myself, it is something the developers have said no. The developers' main point was that it would destroy the BE economy.

This PV offers a compromise/suggestion that focuses on the developers’ main reasons. By offering the idea that BEs would make and sell an item that would allow for the same account combat pet transfer. This offers a solution that keeps money flowing into the BE community and offers a feature that is constantly requested.
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Just because many or even if it was most people want something does not mean it should be done. A number of people would love lots of things like not afk timer, Jedi with no ghost/no viz, etc. I agree it is a nice attempt at a solution. I just do not think there is a problem beyond people not wanting to have to make a choice whether to use their CH if it incites or to use another.
Pets are meant to be special, not just some toss away thing. If they make the changes to CH and add Vitality (I think it was that) this idea gets worse and harder to do. (and I think they are planning on adding that decay piece).
 
The first thing that struck me as I read the PV was that you can't dictate to a BE, or any crafter, what price they will charge. Further, you can't dictate what price the customer will pay.
Even if you make the procedure and costs identical. A BE can choose to charge differently. I would. I'd charge more, but someone else may charge less.
For this to work, there has to be a benefit, other than just transfering a pet. It really has to be cheaper for the BE and customer, or there is no reason to do it. If it costs the same, then what's the point? Just buy a new pet and stuff the old one, what we have now.
 
kcwsooners said:
I apologize that you feel that way.
Regardless, can you do what I have asked of you?
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Wow you really hit all the high notes. Telling me when I am justified to be in a thread, a no apology apology and that you decide what is good feedback or not.

Even so I will humor you. The only thing that might, just might work, is NOT a traded pet but a respec for a pet. But that sounds good except the abuse if they were just made would go crazy so you would have to create some complex system of it being generated for ...oh wait you said this is not just for Jedi/incite. So that shoots even that down because people would just abuse the respec item for their pet. Hmmm sorry it is a no go still. Even though you said this isnt just about Jedi, the PV seems to say it is just for those that incite.

So if it was just special treatment for CH that want incite and go Jedi you could try to make a no trade single use item that lets the Jedi CH transfer pet to another alt and use that item only on that alt on 1 new pet to have it be leveled/bff.

But too much abuse potential and frankly to much complex work for a non-issue where it is a want rather than a need.

It is simple. CH incites. Don't use your CH to become a Jedi. It is your choice.
 
i think it's difficult to consider this if the only justification is loss related to Jedi (a very big gain), and how many other things will then come up that people "lose" because of going to Jedi that they want to be compensated for/exchange (e.g., PAAS rewards)
 
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