Not Implemented Remove combatant

Booyai1 said:

Maybe I should have clarified more. My issue is with the GCW activities being largely PVE focused or done with minimal pvp activity. I don’t care if you are neutral, if you flag up to “go to war”. All of the things you listed would not change the amount of active pvp in the slightest. What I don’t like is that people who don’t pvp are able to reap the same GCW rewards or in some cases take pvper’s rewards away just by pveing. I think if you are actively participating in the GCW, that is you choosing to pvp, any and all activities and rewards related to that should be PVP related. A specific example that comes to mind is the ability to build attack forces in an invasion and not be flagged SF. You can now win that invasion without so much as lifting a finger if you chose. Whilst the defender has to be flagged to defend. That being said I do also like some of your ideas but they are not from the perspective I was going for.

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Rozay said:

Remove combatant as an option and only have on leave and special forces.

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Kodiak3d said:

Please stop thinking of SWG as a real-life simulator and remember it is a GAME. Yes, you may see someone kill a stormtrooper. That's because that person was playing a game and having fun playing in a fictional universe and fighting the GCW in the way they want.

SWG isn't about forcing people into PvP, which many players loathe. If someone wants to roam the galaxy killing Rebel or Imp npc's, then fine. Let them. When the GCW changes come and there are battlefields again, the PvP community will have plenty to do and rewards that only come with PvP. Until then, let people play the game without worrying about getting killed by another player. Or, make a change that will make a few people happy and drive others away from the game.

Remember, this is a server that only has a few thousand players. It's also not a shiny new game that has tons If new people coming to it. It also competes with other SWG servers. If people leave, they likely won't be back. The server benefits by having more people happy, not less.

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Oomas said:

And you want to unlock jedi correct?

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Kodiak3d said:

Please stop thinking of SWG as a real-life simulator and remember it is a GAME. Yes, you may see someone kill a stormtrooper. That's because that person was playing a game and having fun playing in a fictional universe and fighting the GCW in the way they want.

SWG isn't about forcing people into PvP, which many players loathe. If someone wants to roam the galaxy killing Rebel or Imp npc's, then fine. Let them. When the GCW changes come and there are battlefields again, the PvP community will have plenty to do and rewards that only come with PvP. Until then, let people play the game without worrying about getting killed by another player. Or, make a change that will make a few people happy and drive others away from the game.

Remember, this is a server that only has a few thousand players. It's also not a shiny new game that has tons If new people coming to it. It also competes with other SWG servers. If people leave, they likely won't be back. The server benefits by having more people happy, not less.

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PhilmorALF said:

I agree to an extent. SWG is not about forcing people into PvP. It is a big game - with a ton to get into.

I will also say that the GCW is a voluntary road to go down. If someone chooses to be a Rebel or Imperial, there should be some expectation that PvP will be in their future. Again - you can be one side or the other and never have to PvP, but if you partake in attacking the opposing faction, there should be an element that leaves you open to attack (TEF), but not necessarily a bat signal that goes out that tells people where exactly you are (War IntelPad). This way it's a 'at your own risk' sort of scenario, without directly feeding PvP fiends your direct location like when you're Special Forces.

I get it's a game - but it also needs to make sense. I see where you're coming from in not wanting people to be forced into PvP - but there has to be some middle-ground. The idea of a combatant status with no repercussions is just a little off to me.

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Kodiak3d said:

Why should PvP be expected? It's a Star Wars game. Star Wars revolves around the GCW. It's why people play it. They should not be forced into PvP if they don't want it.

PvP is a choice, not the GCW as a whole. Once the GCW changes are implemented, there will be zones for PvP. Entering one is a choice.

As for the game "making sense," games don't always make sense. You sacrifice that in order for people to have a good time. If you want it to make sense:

- People should be arrested for killing Meatlumps in town.
- All combat toons should be arrested for basically being galactic serial killers.
- You shouldn't be able to walk while carrying 4 starship engines in your inventory.
- Every cantina except Mos Eisley should be out of business due to lack of customers.
- Riding a swoop through lava falls on Mustafar should kill you.

...and so on.

A game makes as much sense as it can, but there has to be a suspension of disbelief in order to have fun.

Leave combatants alone. Let them play their game, and if you enjoy PvP, you play yours. Don't try to drag people into something they don't want to do.

And as full disclosure, no, I don't generally PvP. Once the GCW changes occur, I probably will.

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Kodiak3d said:

Could take it or leave it. Not really a concern.

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Oomas said:

Smells a bit fishy

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Kodiak3d said:

Please stop thinking of SWG as a real-life simulator and remember it is a GAME. Yes, you may see someone kill a stormtrooper. That's because that person was playing a game and having fun playing in a fictional universe and fighting the GCW in the way they want.

SWG isn't about forcing people into PvP, which many players loathe. If someone wants to roam the galaxy killing Rebel or Imp npc's, then fine. Let them. When the GCW changes come and there are battlefields again, the PvP community will have plenty to do and rewards that only come with PvP. Until then, let people play the game without worrying about getting killed by another player. Or, make a change that will make a few people happy and drive others away from the game.

Remember, this is a server that only has a few thousand players. It's also not a shiny new game that has tons If new people coming to it. It also competes with other SWG servers. If people leave, they likely won't be back. The server benefits by having more people happy, not less.

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Kodiak3d said:

I can see that some people don't understand that the function of a game is for everyone to have fun.

SWG started with TEF's and later removed them so more people would play GCW content. Adding them back is a mistake in my opinion.

Leave the system the way it is. It doesn't need fixing. If someone kills a factional npc standing next to you, fine.

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RoHRemis said:

Also, your gameplay that you consider fun is PVE. Mine is mostly PVP. Is yours more important than mine?

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