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ksully09

Galactic Senator
Proposal
Bring s9 crafted up a couple/Few hundred HP points
Justification
There is a massive gap between s8 and s0 - a standard craft s9 is well below a raw s8 reward, and s0 HPs are VERY hard to come by as they are convoy only.
Motivation
Give new spacers a shield that will get them into end game easier.
Right now in a standard craft s9, WITH the MK upgrade from convoys the s9 can hit 2800 HP. On 45k mass, with god awful RED. Highest I’ve seen crafted with mats is actually around 2730-2750ish
Most people skip this, because of the extreme mass amount vs the not so great HP, and staring down the barrel of a reward s8 at 2600 re’d HP for half the mass.

So we have a un-used convoy schematic and a completely useless s9 shipwright item. The initial thoughts would be to bring the s9 shipwright shield in line with other craftable parts to starter level RE projects like they were designed to do essentially. Without touching anything else the proposal is to bump the s9 shipwright s9 WITH the convoy MK upgrade to roughly 3k HP. Or so.

To give new players easier access to a shield that can make their lives a little easier when getting into end game space chase.
 
Personally think of going that route it needs tweaks in more than just the HP.

As you say the RED is God awful new players are so tight on energy this has to be a consideration.

Mass - new players once again haven't RE'd multiple parts to fit a 45k shield in.

I'd rather see something in the 2900 40-42k mass range with a bit lower RED as a true bridge.
 
Personally think of going that route it needs tweaks in more than just the HP.

As you say the RED is God awful new players are so tight on energy this has to be a consideration.

Mass - new players once again haven't RE'd multiple parts to fit a 45k shield in.

I'd rather see something in the 2900 40-42k mass range with a bit lower RED as a true bridge.
For sure, I think the goal here is to get community approval on a buffed s9 so the devs can jump in, I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said!

Thanks Smogs!
 
I’m very hesitant about adjustments to crafted shields, don’t want to end up like legends. Most of the AoA space content was created and balanced around s8 users back when it was introduced, so I don’t see a need for this adjustment.
 
I’m very hesitant about adjustments to crafted shields, don’t want to end up like legends. Most of the AoA space content was created and balanced around s8 users back when it was introduced, so I don’t see a need for this adjustment.
Who did the testing though?

Mostly elite level pilots with years/months of gear behind them?

New players arriving at ACE being hit with the RE wall on certain parts and giving up?

I get it though, whole reason I didn't even look over there was saw what they had done to space masses parts etc why I gravitated here.

I don't think this community would stand for any of that nonsense and was it saying make S0s 4k HP it would already be at -50 :)

I think that's a universal here we love JTL as it was, wartz n all. But there are some very small areas newer players need that little bit of a helping hand to tide them over. This for me is the only one as an S0 isn't a I'll just roll with Kash part.

I don't even agree with the entry level PvP engine chatted about in space Senate and space chan's the mk4 suffices for getting players going before an e8.
 
I’m very hesitant about adjustments to crafted shields, don’t want to end up like legends. Most of the AoA space content was created and balanced around s8 users back when it was introduced, so I don’t see a need for this adjustment.
If there was a legends like change being proposed I could understand this take.

But as it sits this isn’t. lol.

Also 100% agree with smogs here, who tested this? Elite senate sitting pilots, AoA is hard in a larger PvE ship with an s8. Sure I can do it.. but there’s people every other day saying it’s too hard with their s8, and then they get tore up with that same s8 trying to do convoys to hunt for the s0. Mean while, there’s not very many people knocking out hundreds of convoys daily like legends to even get the s0 HPs.

This change is more of a no brainer to me.

However, I do appriciate the feedback, and thank you very much for the time to reply.

Legends just isn’t the goal here. The proposal isn’t to make a 5.5k HP chepat.
 
Easier access for beginner aces into endgame content?

No changes to RE loot tables? RE’d s0 is still better than crafted s9?

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