Mass PvP should be prioritized over BH tefs

Mass PvP should be prioritized over BH tefs
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ShadowNova82

Proposal
- Change how the BH/Jedi tef works to prevent intentional culling during mass PvP.

- Specifically: if a Jedi is flagged SF prior to the initiation of a bh tef, it should not prevent the Jedi from receiving support from other flagged players. However, if a BH initiates the tef while the Jedi is on leave or combatant, the Jedi should be unable to /pvp to avoid abusing/cheesing the system.
Justification
- Currently, even while engaged in mass PvP a Jedi ceases being able to receive any kind of support from other SF flagged players once a BH initiates a tef.

- During mass PvP players from both factions are swapping to a BH character (or leaving on their active BH), pulling a SF Jedi’s mission, and then using this mechanic to intentionally cull Jedi out of a fight rather than countering it organically in the spirit of mass PvP.
Motivation
- Jedi should have a place in mass PvP that isn’t circumvented by players using the tef system to cheese a kill for ghosting.
Ultimately Jedi will still have to contend with visibility and mass reporting by opposing players if present for an extended period of PvP. This will result in an accelerated timeframe for being Vadered while also being the likely focus of the opposing factions players.

The resto specific mechanics are more than enough to limit both the time and number of Jedi that are able to be present before being forced to leave due to Inquisitors and Vader. The BH tef as it currently exists is an unnecessary for balance and being used in a manner that is not keeping with the spirit of the type of PvP that is actively occurring.
 
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If normies don't get locked out while SF then Jedi shouldn't either, we're just making it hard for the sake of it. Put normies back on the BH tef while SF or just let people help jedi while they're flagged up.

As it stands right now BH players if they know someone is flagging SF on jedi they will intentionally go to the boards to grab the bounty so no one can heal the jedi in the fights even if they have no intention of "chasing the target"
 
I am on the fence about this, though i am leaning towards support to be honest, despite the strong opposition.

I think basically the argument here is "jedi should be hiding" vs "BHs are just using this to pick up easy kills" which i think both have merit. Unfortunately i think most of the time the BH system is used in GCW to get easy/free kills and cheese jedi out of their bounty rather than actually having meaningful content and fights come from the vis system.

In all honesty i think changing this so that the jedi cant be singled out in this way would encourage more jedi to appear in GCW which i dont think is a bad thing. We have been making changes to jedi with the larger fights in mind so i dont see why they shouldnt be encouraged to participate.

Im going to sponsor this, the community clearly has some feelings so we should take that into account but we can also discuss this at the other level too and weigh up the merits etc. At least with a sponsor the conversation can continue properly. Hopefully no one tells me im a bad BH or Jedi for this take and if you do, im not listening anyway <3
 
Rheasconstruct said:
I am on the fence about this, though i am leaning towards support to be honest, despite the strong opposition.

I think basically the argument here is "jedi should be hiding" vs "BHs are just using this to pick up easy kills" which i think both have merit. Unfortunately i think most of the time the BH system is used in GCW to get easy/free kills and cheese jedi out of their bounty rather than actually having meaningful content and fights come from the vis system.

In all honesty i think changing this so that the jedi cant be singled out in this way would encourage more jedi to appear in GCW which i dont think is a bad thing. We have been making changes to jedi with the larger fights in mind so i dont see why they shouldnt be encouraged to participate.

Im going to sponsor this, the community clearly has some feelings so we should take that into account but we can also discuss this at the other level too and weigh up the merits etc. At least with a sponsor the conversation can continue properly. Hopefully no one tells me im a bad BH or Jedi for this take and if you do, im not listening anyway <3
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Again those that are "seen" helping a Jedi are now sympathizers and should go on the boards along with the Jedi. Support is fine to a point but GTEF was already tested and flushed thank goodness. They should not be seen amd especially in large numbers but if they are a penalty needs added or what is the point.
 
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